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  Babylon The Great

  by EisMe in

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  babylon the great: a prophetic warning.

  babylon the great is not just a city—it is the system that governs the world economy.

  this was god's first judgment against economic babylon, but it would not be his last.. the three parts of babylon's economy.

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  Sea Breeze

  Rome is the best fit in my opinion. Consider:

  Wikipedia states: “Many Biblical scholars believe that ‘Babylon’ is a metaphor for the pagan Roman Empire at the time it persecuted Christians, before the Edict of Milan in 313. . . Perhaps specifically referencing some aspect of Rome’s rule (brutality, greed, paganism). . . In 4 Ezra, 2 Baruch, and the Sibylline Oracles, ‘Babylon’ is a cryptic name for Rome. Reinhard Feldmeier speculates that ‘Babylon’ is used to refer to Rome in 1 Peter 5:13. In Revelation 17:9 it is said that she sits on ‘seven mountains,’ typically understood as the seven hills of Rome. A Roman coin minted under the Emperor Vespasian (ca. 70 AD) depicts Rome as a woman sitting on seven hills.”

  According to the International Standard Bible Encyclopedia: “The characteristics ascribed to this Babylon apply to Rome rather than to any other city of that age: (a) as ruling over the kings of the earth (Revelation 17:18); (b) as sitting on seven mountains (Revelation 17:9); (c) as the center of the world’s merchandise (Revelation 18:3, 11–13); (d) as the corrupter of the nations (Revelation 17:2; 18:3; 19:2); (e) as the persecutor of the saints (Revelation 17:6).”

  According to Eusebius of Caesarea, Babylon would be Rome or the Roman Empire: “And Peter makes mention of Mark in his first epistle which they say that he wrote in Rome itself, as is indicated by him, when he calls the city, by a figure, Babylon, as he does in the following words: ‘The church that is at Babylon, elected together with you, salutes you; and so does Marcus my son (1 Peter 5:13).'”
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  Is Belief in Jesus Enough to be Saved? Or Does it Include Believing Jesus?

  by Sea Breeze in

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  i don't think it is possible to believe in jesus and then not believe what he said.

  the purpose of the watchtower organization is to take as many people to hell as possible.

  they do this by tricking people into rejecting the bare minimum requirements for the free gift of salvation that jesus offered to ”whosoever”.. one of the stipulations for salvation is belief that jesus was raised from the dead:.

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  Sea Breeze

  I don't think it is possible to believe in Jesus and then not believe what He said.
  
  The purpose of the Watchtower organization is to take as many people to hell as possible. They do this by tricking people into rejecting the bare minimum requirements for the free gift of Salvation that Jesus offered to ”whosoever”.

  One of the stipulations for salvation is belief that Jesus was raised from the dead:

  if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. - Romans 10: 9

  Jehovah’s Witnesses dutifully repeat the Watchtower opinion that Jesus was not resurrected. They teach his body was “dissolved into gases”. They teach that the person who presented himself as Jesus after the crucifixion was really Michael the Archangel in a body that he somehow fabricated and in-dwelt while he interacted with people before the ascension into heaven.

  Jehovah’s Witnesses also reject the new covenant “for the forgiveness of sins” that Jesus offered to “whosoever” in Mt. 26: 27–28

  “And he took a cup, and when he had given thanks he gave it to them, saying, “Drink of it, all of you, 28 for this is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins”.

  In John 10:18 and John 2: 19, Jesus predicts that He will raise Himself from the dead. Jehovah’s Witnesses do not believe Jesus when he predicted that he would raise himself from the dead, in effect calling the Lord a liar.

  For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. - John 3: 16
  
  What say you?
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  1975 Quiz.

  by mikronboy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  having been asked to prepare and present a general knowledge inter-pub quiz, i decided to include a question relating to jw's.

  there were 12 teams in all, 4 persons to each team.

  this was the question:.

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  Sea Breeze

  If two teams left at half-time and didn't even attempt the question; Then that is 5 out of ten - 50%.
  
  ....After more than 50 years
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  Those Who Ascend To Heaven - As Revealed By YHWH

  by EisMe in

  1. watchtower
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  martyrs ascend to heaven, the 144,000 are preserved.

  many believers wonder about who truly ascends to heaven after death.

  some hold that all believers go to heaven, while others believe only the 144,000 ascend.

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  Sea Breeze

  Here's PROOF from the pure clean nourishment of the Watchtower that the NEW COVENANT is NOT for those "ascending to heaven"

  "Jehovah provided Jesus Christ as the perfect sacrifice to take away sins. This is a specific provision of the "new covenant."" Watchtower 1980 Nov 1 p.31.
  
  Of course Christians have known for centuries just by reading Mt. 26-27-28
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  WT AUGUST 2025: NEW LIGHT ON HAILSTONE MESSAGE : IS IT BIBLICAL OR JUST CONVENIENT?

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  https://youtu.be/n_fttvylm-m?si=l44406ohysubkajr.

  so today we are considering, the watchtower's new take on the "hailstone message", and if you don't know what that is , they used to believe that according to revelation 16:21 they would be preaching a hard hitting message during the time of the end.

  now, let's read the verse first from the new world translation: "then great hailstones, each about the weight of a talent, fell from heaven on the people, and the people blasphemed god because of the plague of hail, for the plague was unusually great" now this is their new understanding as it appears from the 3rd paragraph from their new watchtower study edition for august 2025 and their article:when will the preaching work end, has this to say: "our clarified understanding of matthew 24:14 also adjusts our understanding of the hailstonelike message foretold at revelation 16:21. further examination has revealed that the two scriptures complement each other.

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  Sea Breeze

  "Our clarified understanding of Matthew 24:14 also adjusts our understanding of the hailstone-like message foretold at Revelation 16:21

  In Watchtower land, things aren't always what they seem. Hailstones turn into speeches and women turn into men.

  
  
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  Letter of Disassociation to Former Religions / Baptism Questions ?

  by HereIam60 in

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  this was prompted by some comments in another thread, but since it was somewhat "off" the original topic, i'm posting/asking seperately.... i was born in 1960, and baptized as a infant in a catholic church.

  obviously i have no personal memory of this, and only know, because i was told, and we had a family photo of my parents holding me before the baptismal font while the priest prepared to do the sprinkling.

  i was taken probably no more than 3 times to the catholic church in my early childhood and had no clue as to what was going on.. from the ages of 10 to 12 i attended a methodist sunday school, rarely the actual church service, but sang with the class in an annual christmas presentation in the church.. in the 1980s, studying with jehovah's witnesses, and considering baptism, i was told i had to write a letter to any religious group i had previously been involved with, stating i no longer wished any contact, wanted to be removed from their membership lists and witnessing as to why...(separation from satan's world, false religion, babylon etc.).

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  Sea Breeze

  I have never understood the 'legal ramifications" of a religious baptism.

  Baptism is a fitting symbol of being inducted into something, and leaving something behind. For WT, a person is baptized into a life of changing rules and regulations needed for Salvation.
  
  Notice how in the list below, acknowledgement of sin and repentance are not even mentioned. The work Jesus did and his blood covering offered in the new covenant did not even make honorable mention.

  
  
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  Will They Change the Memorial Talk This Year?

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  https://youtu.be/o5almnehew4?si=kdgrjgbiutjkvcxe.

  i’m hoping the memorial talk will be different.

  change the talk!

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  Sea Breeze

  JWs would answer "Yes" if you asked them if they were born again

  They will also answer yes if you ask them if Jesus is their Mediator, or if they are justified.
  
  Liars.
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  Dinosaur Soft Tissue

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  back when the dinosaur soft tissue story was broken in 2005, i predicted that that many more soft tissues would be found and that it wouldn't matter if it was supposedly "65 million" years old or "165 million" years old.

  the prediction has proven true and dinosaur soft tissue is routinely now found regardless of supposed age.

  this is easy to predict using a literal reading of genesis and accepting it as history.... .

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  Sea Breeze

  This is what Lewontin was referring to. The theist presupposes god, then demands that science put this presupposition on the same level as the things that science is able to observe and test.

  No, it is not. Not only has your commitment to materialism caused unreasonable conclusions regarding science, it has also created selective illiteracy when reading the English language: He says: "materialism is absolute, for we cannot allow a Divine Foot in the door ".

  Contrary to what you state, it is the materialist that is chained to his presupposition, at the expense of his rationality.

  Creationist believe we must be rational, truthful & anchored in reason and logic. Why? because the believer has a duty and a longing to be like his father God, the giver of logic and truth. "God cannot deny himself".

  The Materialist has no such moral imperative, and so can be as irrational and absurd as he or she likes in their interpretations without violating any tenet of materialism.

  "we are forced by our a priori adherence to material causes to create an apparatus of investigation and a set of concepts that produce material explanations, no matter how counter-intuitive... and mystifying" ― Richard C. Lewontin Ph.d (Degrees from Harvard and Columbia)
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  Dinosaur Soft Tissue

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  back when the dinosaur soft tissue story was broken in 2005, i predicted that that many more soft tissues would be found and that it wouldn't matter if it was supposedly "65 million" years old or "165 million" years old.

  the prediction has proven true and dinosaur soft tissue is routinely now found regardless of supposed age.

  this is easy to predict using a literal reading of genesis and accepting it as history.... .

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  Sea Breeze

  They are saying that galaxies may have formed earlier (and therefore, faster) than they thought.

  Materialists don't have any mechanism to support such a claim and they are saying much more than that now. They have literally run out of space. Keep in mind that materialism is an ideology that competes with God, It "cannot allow a divine foot in the door" but would prefer to believe the "patent absurdity of some of its constructs" no matter what the evidence is.

  Materialists sources are starting to admit the evidence shows that matter got turned into stars "at the time of their formation". That is what creationists have been saying for years and now materialist sources are saying the same thing! It's hilarious.

  
  University of Texas:

  "According to calculations by another UT Austin astronomer Michael Boylan-Kolchin, if some of the galaxies observed by JWST are as big and as early as initial estimates say, it would seem to signal that all available matter in the universe at the time of their formation got turned into stars found in these galaxies. That’s pretty unbelievable, but his study, and other discoveries of galaxies seemingly too big too early, suggest that the standard model of cosmology... might need an overhaul".

  “If the masses are right, then we are in uncharted territory,” Boylan-Kolchin said. “We’ll require something very new…One of the most extreme possibilities is that the universe was expanding faster shortly after the Big Bang than we predict, which might require new forces and particles.”

  Materialists will have to "overhaul" their materialistic theories not just tweak them a bit. Or, some may invent "new forces and particles" to try and rescue the "standard model of cosmology".
  
  We all have the same evidence. And, because of that, the list of absurdities that must be accepted or invented to support materialism is growing by leaps and bounds in multiple sciences such as cosmology, genetics and paleontology.

  For instance, you said: "One thing that stands out about all of the fossilized footprints that have been found, is how unlike human footprints they seem".

  For people chained to an ideology like materialism such as yourself, these images look UNLIKE human footprints. For everyone else with a free and clear mind, these images look JUST LIKE human footprints.
  
  
  

  

  

  
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  The Man of Lawlessness: A Prophetic Fulfillment

  by EisMe in

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  trump and the temple of god.

  the bible warns that before christ's return, the man of lawlessness will reveal himself by setting himself up in the temple of god, exalting himself above all that is worshiped (2 thessalonians 2:4).. trump’s middle east policies, particularly his recognition of jerusalem as israel’s capital and the relocation of the u.s. embassy, marked a turning point in modern geopolitics.

  some religious leaders believe these actions align with prophetic expectations regarding the third temple, positioning him within a messianic framework.. further supporting evidence:.

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  So, you are announcing Trump is the Anti-Christ? His political opponents have been saying that for years.